The Energy Fix Episode 122 - FINAL.mp3
2025-07-01
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0:00:13 Tansy Rodgers: Welcome back to the Energy Fix, a podcast dedicated to help you balance your energetic body by diving deep into the sweet world of all things health and spirituality. My name’s Tansy and and I’m an intuitive crystal Reiki energy healer, energetic nutrition and holistic health practitioner, and a crystal jewelry designer. It’s time to talk all things energy. Let’s dive in. I feel like there is a really delicate line between walking into that spiritual path and doing all of this soul evolution and at the same time living the human experience. Experience and knowing that there is a physical body, a mental capacity, an emotional release that just is inevitable with this human experience.
0:01:06 Tansy Rodgers: And sometimes it’s really easy to forget that while you’re on this spiritual journey of soul evolution that you also need to be taking care of your body to be able to support you into the venture of that soul, soul evolution. And I know personally, I have fallen into this trap so many times. You know, you can have all the momentum in the world, but if your body is not on board, the whole thing just starts to crack.
0:01:41 Tansy Rodgers: And so I’m really excited to have this conversation that we’re going to have today. I have Cliff beach back onto the show today. Now, if you did not hear him earlier on the Energy Fix podcast, make sure to jump on back to episode number 113. You will be able to hear his initial conversation where we talked all about healthy hustle, what that looks like for the creative ADHD brain, or just the brain in general that finds themselves really getting into that all or nothing mindset, how to be in a healthy hustle, a healthy flow, and still live life while at the same time allowing your soul to evolve. I almost feel like this episode is that next iteration of, of the conversation, the, the continuing of the conversation that we had in episode number 113.
0:02:39 Tansy Rodgers: Because now we’re bringing in the body piece, we’re bringing in the health, the wellness, the shape up. And that is what I’m sitting down with Cliff to chat about today. Now, just as a little recap, Cliff beach is an award winning musician, author, podcaster and living proof that you don’t have to choose between your creative dreams and your well being. He’s a master of the side hustle and a fierce advocate for really shaping up from the inside out.
0:03:14 Tansy Rodgers: And he has an audiobook that is now out called side Hustle and Flow Shape up, where he’s diving deep into health hustle and what it really takes to stay on your purpose path while without actually burning out. Because I think that that’s the biggest thing here, you know, if you’re listening to this, you probably have a lot of really deep big dreams. You probably are curious about how to evolve as not just a human being, but also as a soul.
0:03:50 Tansy Rodgers: You probably are stepping forward and taking true action now. And the key here is really learning how to do that, how to evolve, how to step up without actually burning out. Because we can’t do great things while we’re in burnout, right? So as I sit down with Cliff in this episode, we’re going to talk all about the real deal. The real deal behind staying committed to your goals, physically, emotionally, creatively, and how to keep showing up when life’s groove really gets messy.
0:04:27 Tansy Rodgers: Because that is inevitable. Right? I know as I was talking to Cliff, I mean, you could just tell his energy is electric and his story is so wildly relatable to many of us. He has this no fluff honesty, which I appreciate so greatly. And it was why I couldn’t wait to bring him back onto the show. Because honestly, it felt like I was talking to just, just somebody who doesn’t try to mask and cover it all up.
0:04:59 Tansy Rodgers: It’s exactly what we need right now. We need true honesty and we need the real deal. So Cliff is going to bring that. Now before we dive in, as I love to always do, to give you a few updates and there are some big updates. And I think the biggest update today is that today the keys are coming into our hands. What do I mean by that? Well, today two of my business partners, my new business partners and I are officially stepping into a dream years in the making.
0:05:37 Tansy Rodgers: We are getting the keys to our new wellness space here in Lititz, Pennsylvania and it’s called the Liditz Mind Body Studio. We are starting to step into that space space here in the month of July and are going to have an official grand opening. So definitely keep your ears and your eyes open to that. This space is going to be the heartbeat of healing and community in South Central Pennsylvania. I’m beyond honored to co create this vision. I am beyond grateful for these two women that are coming together with me to create this space, to make this dream become a reality. And we’re stepping into it officially.
0:06:25 Tansy Rodgers: I’m so excited. Oh yeah, that’s the biggest news. And then of course, I’m still going to be all over the place. Wednesday, July 10th, I am co leading a sound and crystal Reiki session. Our monthly sessions that we always have over at Shvaya Healing Arts in Litz, Pennsylvania. Here it is all about recalibrating your nervous system, aligning your energy field through self, sound and sacred stones, and coming together as a group and being able to really feed and vibe off of each other’s energy as we move forward and heal together.
0:07:04 Tansy Rodgers: So if this sounds interesting to you, if this is something that you need right now here in the midst of summertime here in Pennsylvania in the Northern hemisphere, then please make sure that you contact me. Reach on out, grab your spot, and then Saturday and Sunday, July 12th and 13th, please come on out and see me at Midsummer Holistic Expo in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. If you are in the area, I would love for you to come out and say hi.
0:07:35 Tansy Rodgers: It is my favorite thing ever when I get to connect with listeners from the podcast, with subscribers, from my emails, with people that I only know digitally. I love getting to meet you in. So please come on out. I’m going to have my handmade crystal jewelry, some intuitive tools, and then all the grounding summer energy that your soul is craving. We will be there and we will be hanging tough all weekend.
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0:09:07 Tansy Rodgers: Now, without further ado, let’s get into this episode. Here is Cliff beach once again bringing the wisdom. Let’s dive in.
0:09:20 Tansy Rodgers: Welcome back to the Energy Fix. Cliff, thanks for coming back. I’m excited to have you on for another amazing conversation.
0:09:28 Cliff Beach: Yeah, I’m excited to be here, Tanti. Thanks for having me again.
0:09:31 Tansy Rodgers: Oh man. When we had our last conversation, we didn’t get to expand into the health side because you have a whole branch of information and wisdom that you can really chat about in that realm. And you know, when we finished up the last one, you know, we stopped hitting record. I was for all the listeners I was telling Cliff, I said, we never even got to the health and wellness side. You know, this podcast is all about mind, body, spirit, connection, energy, world. But we never got to the health dang.
0:10:04 Tansy Rodgers: And so we decided to do another one to bring it back and dive into that. And plus, I left super inspired by the. That last conversation. So. Thank you for being here again.
0:10:14 Cliff Beach: Thank you. Yeah. You know, all the time when people talk about, well, we all come to our own journey in our own way. But the interesting thing is that if you look at both books side by side, sometimes people will think they’re like completely different, but they’re not. What it means is that health is really important, and it’s just as entrepreneurs or solopreneurs, that’s the ball that you end up dropping first by mistake by most people because you think, well, if I just hustle, I’ll get back to it. It’s like, no, you need the stamina and vitality of having better health.
0:10:50 Cliff Beach: Because the whole point of everything that I’ve been talking about is how to live your best life. But you have to live your best life in different buckets. But health is a major bucket, really. It’s. It’s the umbrella that sits on top of that entire ecosystem. So now having two books, I always tell people, you can hustle hard and you can do everything from the first book, but you can go much farther, much further when you apply health as the lens to. To do that. Because even when you talk about in the first book, self care, what that really means, you know, and that you are a person and you matter.
0:11:29 Cliff Beach: You know, it’s like I. I tell people all the time, like, when you think your body is a temple, if you were going by a church or a synagogue and you see someone defiling it, you see someone leaving trash there, spra painting it, you would yell out, don’t do that. Well, that’s. That’s you. You’re that temple. That’s you. You need to yell out, don’t do that. That’s not the thing to eat. That’s not the thing that’s going to. To. To love you back or to get you on the. The journey that where you want. So it’s kind of like they sound unrelated, but the books integrate well. They’re actually really talking about the same thing. It’s like, how do I set up goals?
0:12:04 Cliff Beach: But one is more like business and creative projects, and one is for health. But I don’t think of them as separate. I think of them as, as Combined because you, you are a part of the egosys that you, you are the system. You know, if you go, everything goes. And I think that’s the tough part sometimes, especially, you know, there are entrepreneurs like mompreneurs. You know, you’re a parent and you have a business, but it’s still that old saying of being on the airplane, like, put your mask on first.
0:12:35 Cliff Beach: You know, health is important. Put your mask on first. Because if you become incapacitated, you become a liability, you’re not going to be there for your kids. And that’s sad. That’s sad when you have parents, you know, that have died, you know, prematurely because they, they didn’t take care of their health. And I, it’s counterintuitive. I know that it feels like that’s why they have to make that announcement all the time, because it feels like I’m going to take care of my kids first. It’s like. But the best way to take care of your kids or take care of your family or take care of whoever is depending on is to take care of yourself first.
0:13:08 Tansy Rodgers: Yeah. And so before we dive, really get into all this conversation, you know, for the listeners who haven’t listened to your other episode, which if you haven’t, you need to go back as episode 113, make sure that you head on back and check out that first one and really get to get that initial introduction here to Mr. Cliff. But before we get into this, why don’t you just tell the maybe brand new listener or the reminder listener, who, who are you?
0:13:36 Tansy Rodgers: What, what are you up to? Like what, what do you do? And also what brought you from where you were into this world of health and expanding into the hustle and health?
0:13:47 Cliff Beach: Yeah, that’s a great question, Tenthe. Thank you. So basically I’m a musician in Los Angeles. I’m originally from the east coast in Washington D.C. i went to music school as a teenager at Berkeley College of Music in Boston. So I’ve always been kind of a creative person, creative thinker. So now being in LA over 20 years, as you know, music is a very difficult industry. So to be able to survive and thrive and to be able to parlay becoming great at your instrument and your craft to owning your own businesses within their, licensing your own music, owning your own masters, you know, there’s a lot of business components to that. And then also getting my MBA at Pepperdine, I have been vice president of a digital marketing firm. And so how you kind of create this ecosystem where you’re able to run parallel Tracks where you can work full time and sustain yourself and make money and be diversified while also getting out those, those dreams, those creative things. Some things will make you money, some won’t, but you still need to get them out there because the world needs that from you. So I’ve been Now taking that 20 years of experience and mentoring people, writing the book side Hustle and flow, getting this information out that I’ve learned that’s my normal, but not everyone’s normal. And, and so now I’ve been really working with kids and really helping even adults understand we are created to create.
0:15:11 Cliff Beach: And so now coming from that lens of, okay, we’re creating, we’re setting up our, our goals and getting projects out there and just building the time for volunteering, for, for parenting, whatever it is, Building the time and the life and the dream that we want. And then through there in that journey, I had health issues. And so as I started to work on cleaning up my life, taking things from western medicine and Eastern medicine, what I realized is that health is part of the hustle.
0:15:44 Cliff Beach: I thought it was separated from the hustle, but no, you actually can hustle harder, healthier. And so if you want to really 10x now, 15, 20 extra life, the way to do that is that you, you, you build the foundation. And I think that’s the key word, because when you think about a structure, right, you think about a house, people think about building the walls, right? But you don’t build the walls till you have a foundation.
0:16:10 Cliff Beach: But you never go into a beautiful home when it has an open house and say there’s an amazing foundation. You forget that’s what your health is. It’s the foundation. It’s what allows you to become that great thing you want to become that people see. But the walls are built on that. And if your foundation cracks, the walls fall, everything falls. So now it’s just kind of, it’s, it’s not necessarily that it wasn’t there, but it’s just kind of prioritizing it differently.
0:16:39 Cliff Beach: Putting that first allows everything else to fall into place a little bit easier than the other way around. And a lot of people do it a different way. But I just know out of all the things you can do, like let’s say you had a business and it fails, you lose your money many times over. People have gained that money back with new knowledge and be able to do it, you know, five, ten times over. Health, sometimes you can’t walk that back.
0:17:02 Cliff Beach: It’s just not always guaranteed that what you did is going to Be something that’s reversible and recovery. So a lot of times you can definitely help. I mean, don’t exacerbate it, make it work. Some things, they just don’t snap back the same, especially as we get older. And so it’s just kind of teaching people ultimately how to think, whether it’s mindset, but it’s just like, you know, I’m not telling you this is what you should do. I’m telling you seek it out and find your truth.
0:17:30 Cliff Beach: Write the prescription for your life. And your health is the foundation of that.
0:17:35 Tansy Rodgers: Yeah. For many years I was a regular daily listener of a podcast called the Quote of the Day show by Sean Croxton. I don’t know if you’re familiar with that. So super, super inspirational. Lots of really great, well known speakers on there. And you know, I remember before, I found that before, I would listen to a lot of these speakers on different mediums otherwise, and I would get confused and I would think all you had to do was work harder.
0:18:10 Tansy Rodgers: And if you worked harder, you were going to succeed. Because that’s what it sounded like. Right? That was the formula. So everybody said. And so what Tansy did was she just kept working harder and harder and harder. And health has always been my passion. It’s always been something I’ve loved. It’s always been something I’ve been involved in. But a lot of my healthy habits would get pushed to the side because I had this mindset of I want to succeed, so I’m just going to keep pushing harder. That means I have to work longer hours, I have to do things even when I don’t want to do them all the time.
0:18:48 Tansy Rodgers: And when I started having issues, I started getting burnout, I started having lots of health stuff. And so when I found that podcast, and then also I was following Sean at that point when he had the underground wellness and all of that, you know, like all of that stuff. Stuff. And so when I was more in that world, I started to understand, oh, there’s, there’s some healthier ways. When I had more of a diverse group of people to listen to, there’s other ways to do this.
0:19:21 Tansy Rodgers: It didn’t totally switch me right away, but it was nice to have some of that being fed into my head every single day, that maybe, just maybe, I don’t have to kill myself, I can actually be healthier and still succeed, Succeed. And so I found that when I started to shift my way of being prioritizing my health, meditating, doing lighter exercises, other than just hard Cardio or hard strength training all the time eating, to not worry necessarily about the calorie intake and what my body, quote unquote, looked like, but to eat for nourishment and to feed my soul, there was a difference.
0:20:07 Tansy Rodgers: And so this all resonates so deeply with me. Cliff, I would love to know from you what is one thing that you find yourself still working on when it comes to this balance of this hustle and this health like I just talked about, like, what are you still working on that you find really challenging, perhaps?
0:20:26 Cliff Beach: Well, for me, you know, to be vulnerable and honest. One of the most difficult things for me to come to health and also working is that that I end up having a lot of thoughts. And so I do meditation and breath work and qigong and tai chi and I have cycles of where I do a lot more. And then other times, but for me, rest, sleep, you know, I have this amazing book written in the 70s. Hopefully it’ll show up. But it says when I relax, I feel guilty.
0:20:55 Cliff Beach: That’s how I feel every day. Every time I try to rest, I feel guilty. And I’ll end up putting something in his place to work. And that’s my detriment. No matter what I do, I’m mostly put. I can do one more thing, one more email, one more text, one more research, one more chapter, one more this. And it’s like, yeah, it becomes a burnout of a burnout. And. And you get so used to being burnt out and pushing through that you don’t always realize when you’re burnt out, like you’re still going, the machine is still moving, but.
0:21:35 Cliff Beach: But you’re not there. You know, your, your mind isn’t fully there, your motivation isn’t really there, your feelings aren’t really there. But ultimately, like, I’ll look at people, there are some people, they can just sleep whenever, you know, that’s not me. I’m always up. I Woke up at 3am this morning and I just been up because I’m just thinking and that’s great. As a creative, you want to have a lot of thoughts, but you want to be also able to, to. To quiet your mind and also allow yourself to relax. You know, there’s this joke. My pastor used to say that he would always take Mondays off because he preaches on Sundays. And so someone was trying to call him on Monday and he wasn’t there. So Tuesday, when he got the call again, they said, I tried to call you Monday.
0:22:16 Cliff Beach: Where were you? He was like, well, that’s my. That’s my Sabbath. That’s my off day because I preach on Sunday. And the guy says, well, the devil never takes a day off. And he says, well, if I don’t take a day off, I’ll be worse than the devil, you know. So you have to learn to relax and learn that that feeling of guilt is just something. It’s a construct in your mind. There’s nothing to feel guilty about. Again, you know, when I use that metaphor in the Bible, they have the creation story.
0:22:46 Cliff Beach: Six days created, seven day rested. Really, that’s just a model that, like, you need to rest. You need to rest and relax to reflect. You can’t know if everything was good until you actually look back to see if it was good or not. In the doing, you don’t always know. And so it’s just. That’s my main inner work, is getting comfortable in the space. When someone says, what are you going to do this weekend? And I say, nothing.
0:23:18 Cliff Beach: That’s powerful because it was always like, got to keep up with the Joneses. And if you stop, they’ll get further. And you got to keep doing this. And you got to toil in the night while everyone’s asleep. It’s like, well, what that does is you gain weight. You gain about two pounds every week for those hours of sleep. And people will tell you, you have a sleep debt. You cannot get that back. You can’t sleep 20 hours the next day and make up the eight. You didn’t get that. The body doesn’t do that. And actually, Arianna Huffington, she had a book, I don’t remember the name, but she talked about she collapsed at the Huffington Post in her office from not sleeping, from not resting. And so she wrote a whole book about just learning to relax.
0:23:58 Cliff Beach: It was so funny when I heard about this book, and it’s old, I think from late 70s, early 80s, but I was like, that’s the perfect title. When I relax, I feel guilty. Not again. Not anymore. So. So it’s like, you know, but. But it helps us in a humanistic perspective where we know we’re not alone. You’re not the crazy person. There are many people who are trying to hustle and hustle hard and hustle all the time and, and. And be that.
0:24:23 Cliff Beach: That machine. But we’re not machines. We’re humans. Humans have to rest. You know, we have to power down at some point or your body will scream at you. You’ll get ill or sick. You know, whether it’s a cold or flu or something like that. Happens when you are burning What I say the candle at both ends and in the middle.
0:24:45 Tansy Rodgers: I think people forget or maybe it’s a lack of knowledge and information. There is something called functional burnout, and that you literally can be completely burnt out. You’re burning both ends of the candle, you’re burning the middle of the candle, and you’re still operating every single day. And that’s where it can really become dangerous. Right. And so when. And by the way, that book resonates with me, so I always feel guilty too.
0:25:14 Tansy Rodgers: Like, I could look at all these hours I have. I could be doing so much more. But you’re absolutely right. Cliff, what does burnout feel like in your body, your spirit, your creativity? What do you notice when you start hitting that level? And what helps you to start to wake up? That there is a disconnect and something needs to shift.
0:25:39 Cliff Beach: Yeah. So in. In music, we have. When you’re looking at a waveform, waveforms naturally go like this. We have a way of what’s called compression. We can squish the waveform, you know, to make it louder. But when you do that, you cut some of the highs and you cut some of the lows, and that’s what happens. That’s what happens when you are burnt out functionally, but still going. You. You. You have compressed your life, and now you. You will cut your lows and your highs, you know, so it’s hard to celebrate small wins or any wins, because you’re just bulldozing through everything.
0:26:14 Cliff Beach: Everything is just go, go, go. And that’s tough because sometimes you. When you do stop and look back, you’re like, wow, these were some amazing things, but you didn’t really get to enjoy them because you were just on to the next, like, oh, that show’s done. Onto the next episode. It’s like, no, but that. That episode has nuggets, you know, going back to every episode, listening to it again, hearing something different that you missed, it’s different.
0:26:40 Cliff Beach: And so I think that’s the. The tough part of. Of that functional burnout. Also. Sometimes it shows up in different ways. It can be anxiety, it can be depression, but it. It shows up. And sometimes, you know, they have. In therapy, they have that feeling. Will. Sometimes you need words to kind of say, oh, that’s what that is, and drill down into. Actually was at a tech conference in San Francisco, and this person gave us this format of what they call five whys.
0:27:12 Cliff Beach: When you are trying to figure out something business within yourself, you ask five wives. Why, why, why, why, why? To get to the root of what it is. Why are we doing it that way? Why do we always do it that way? Why are we doing something different? You know, why are we asking other people outside what they should do? And then eventually, when you get to the fifth, why, it’s like, oh, because what happens is that the motivational speaker, Zig Ziglar, he talks about this ham reference, his wife. He brings home this nice country ham.
0:27:44 Cliff Beach: She cuts off the ends, she puts it in the broiler. And he said, why’d you cut the good ends of the ham off? She’s like, I don’t know. My mom always did it. So they call mama and they say, mama, why did you always cut the ends of the hammer? She’s like, I don’t know. My. My mom did it. So they called grandma and said, grandma, why did you always cut the ends of the hammer? She’s like, I don’t know why you guys are doing it. I had a small roaster, you know, so she did it because that was the five wives. When you get back to them, that was then, but now we have bigger roaster.
0:28:13 Cliff Beach: We don’t need to do that. You know, the same way the keyboard. You have that qwerty keyboard. Q, W, E, R, T, Y. That was not the original keyboard design. The original keyboard design was alphabetical. Abcdfg. But people would type so quickly that the keyboard couldn’t keep up. And so they made it harder by teaching people to type in the system and putting the letters together. Now, keyboards can keep up, but we’ve kept that as our why.
0:28:37 Cliff Beach: So you have to constantly go back to the source of why are we doing this thing? Because it might have served you five, 10 years ago, but it may not be serving you now. And sometimes you just have to again stop to reflect. If you keep going, you’ll never be able to ask the five whys to figure out if something has shifted or you need to make a change. You can only do that when you stop and pause and reflect.
0:29:00 Cliff Beach: And you can’t. You can’t do that while doing, wow.
0:29:05 Tansy Rodgers: Well. And so you live this dual life of being a musician, day jobber, you know, building this entrepreneurship for yourself. And so that takes a lot of hustle. And for, like, how I was talking about earlier, for so many people, that can really be a detriment to their health if they don’t know how to balance that. When did you realize that hustling harder wasn’t enough? Number one? Like, when did you realize that? But then also number two, what did you find Was your game changing health shift that you did to actually make the needle move and help you realize, oh, I’m onto something here, There, this, this needs to be a lifestyle rather than just an every so often?
0:29:53 Cliff Beach: Well, you know, funny thing is, I was watching this, someone sent me like an Instagram motivational clip. I get a bunch from friends and people that I mentor, but they sent me one and basically it was this whole scenario where they kept just saying, choose your heart, choose your heart. Being sick is hard. Being healthy is hard. Choose which one. But you make a choice. You have to now realize that everything you’ve been sold is marketing. You know, the food pyramid marketing, sunkist.
0:30:21 Cliff Beach: They promoted that orange juice was a healthy thing. People didn’t drink oranges like that 100 years ago. They ate them and they got the fiber and everything else, the cellulose. So it was different. You look at pictures of the 60s and the 70s, everyone was skinny. Something happened where we allowed these relaxed standards to say what, quote, unquote, food is right. So when you choose your heart, you know, when you listen to your body, what it needs, right? There’s a reason when you go into the store, an apple or broccoli doesn’t need nutrition facts. No one cares how many calories you have. You’re never going to overeat that, you know, so it’s not a worrisome thing. But then all these shelf stable foods that are food science, things that don’t decay and don’t last, that’s unnatural. And putting a lot of unnatural things in your body, it’s not going to be an optimum thing. And the sad thing is, the shift for me is that as you make money and you become more affluent, you have cars, whatever it is, you will spend a premium on a car and a premium on the gas, knowing that this car needs better fuel to be optimized. But you’re not going to do it for you, you know, you’re going to go eat crap, you know, and so garbage in, garbage out. So the shift for me was I was severely overweight, 75 pounds overweight.
0:31:44 Cliff Beach: And, you know, I had been feeling that well for a while. And I went to the doctor in November of 2019 and they said you have diabetes, which I didn’t know, and you have high blood pressure and high cholesterol. And that wasn’t the crazy thing, but they were like, you got to take this medication. And I have a difficult time swallowing pills. So I was like, I don’t want to be on medicine forever. You know, I I want to know what I need to do.
0:32:10 Cliff Beach: And they could not walk me through five wives. They could not tell me why I had it and what to do. I mean, they would say just generally, like, you need to lose weight. I was like, well, no, no, crap, of course. Yeah, you know, and I need to be rich, you know, all those things. But that. But how do I do that? How do I do it? And so I ended up getting a dietitian, you know, and I already had lost some weight on my own. Then I ended up losing £50 in five months working with this dietitian. But it was learning and relearning. Like, we. We. We know, like, what’s healthy. I think.
0:32:43 Cliff Beach: I think we have a general understanding. An apple a day. I would. I will have this apple. This is healthier than having something else. But, I mean, there’s definitely learnings that you need to do about metabolism and other stuff. The main thing, though, is that I stopped drinking five years ago. Alcohol. And the doctor never told me that. And technically, with those things, you can drink. But I just knew it wasn’t helping me. You know, when you. When you’re up late and you drink, it triggers you to want to eat late.
0:33:12 Cliff Beach: And, you know, it’s just a vicious cycle, and it affects your sleep and other stuff, and it dehydrates you, and it doesn’t. I mean, to a certain degree, I’m sure there’s some medical benefits in a very narrow amount, but obviously, people drink more than the medical benefit. So it just was like. I was like, this is. This is a good place for me to say, I’m gonna let this go. Right? It’s just. It’s. It’s time, you know, we. We had a great run.
0:33:37 Cliff Beach: It’s time. And so then from there, the beauty of that is when you start to cultivate a discipline in your life. And I chose my heart then. Now, tackling food as my next heart was easier. If I did them combined, I would have quit. It would have been too difficult to give up alcohol and food in the same time. So it took me about three years in to eventually then say, okay, enough is enough. But also the pivotal moment was I was on three pills to turn to four, to turn to five. And when I got to the six next, I had a reaction.
0:34:13 Cliff Beach: And that. And the pills were starting to cause other issues. Like, they were like, this. This is coming down, but this is going up. This is how I was like, oh, I don’t want to. I went off this, right? And so again, I’m like I need to find this solution. What do I do? And, and they, the doctors, they couldn’t really tell me. But the, the beauty of it is that I found not only the western medicine, the dietitian, but I found a lot of eastern medicine. So doing acupuncture, which is great for clearing blockages, but more importantly qigong and tai chi. Why I love it so much is it was the first time anyone ever told me because I had fatty liver, right?
0:34:50 Cliff Beach: And it was non alcoholic fatty liver. But your organs aren’t supposed to have fat and the liver is like your best friend. So basically it says if I don’t know what to do with what’s in here, I’ll take care of, I will take the burden as the liver and the liver affects the pancreas and the pancreas affects and having diabetes. So basically as I was trying to heal my liver and stopped alcohol, the eastern medicine, qigong and Tai chi taught me for the first time, your organs can harbor feelings.
0:35:25 Cliff Beach: Your liver stores anger. And if you’re holding on to anger that you need to let go, your liver is not going to heal, basically is what they told me.
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0:37:02 Cliff Beach: And also when they check my pulse at acupuncture, they would say you don’t breathe. And what they meant by that is That I don’t breathe deeply, I don’t breathe and ever stop. So in those moments where you’re so stressed that you’re tight and you clinch, you hold your breath, little moment that you don’t realize. And so that was very eye opening for me because as you do the breath work, you’re like thinking about, okay, I want to release this anger.
0:37:36 Cliff Beach: And even, even through giving up alcohol, I went through a recovery program. And it’s a part of the process of you’re figuring out your hurts and your habits and your hang ups, who hurt, who have you hurt, who hurt you. So letting go of that anger, resentment, guilt, frustration, whatever those words are, the, the organs the body remembers, you know, and, and you just, no one ever really told me that. And so it was like by allowing that breath and when you breathe deeply like that and you have your hands open, it’s like you, you have this mental, I’m letting this go like this because you’re trying to hustle carrying this backpack that’s so heavy with bricks.
0:38:18 Cliff Beach: And if you take it off, you know, I tell people all the time, like, you don’t know how heavy you were until you lose the weight. You don’t know what the gravity was until you’re weightless. Now you know the difference. We can only know in comparison when we know what’s better, what’s worse. And so that was my heart. And it’s still a battle every day. I have to still get on the scale. You know, I go up and down, I have to make adjustments. But at least now I know.
0:38:46 Cliff Beach: And I’m aware and cognizant that every day I’m waking up choosing my own heart. And for me, it was harder being unhealthy than making the healthy choice. And when you get used to it, your body actually craves good things. But some things switches inside you when you’re used to eating junk that you crave that. And so you just kind of have to shift, you know, where your focus. Focus is. But I mean, I think everyone has, just as an adult, wipe the slate clean and relearn what is right. Because, you know, we’ve been just marketed to and sold so many bad ideas that I think people are confused. I think people don’t always know exactly what to do. But I think generally most people have like some sense of like, okay, I know that these 12 Krispy Kreme doughnuts probably is not the best.
0:39:41 Tansy Rodgers: I think that’s pretty standard. Yeah, yeah, that would be easy to say, but you’re right. I mean, marketing has us so confused because like you said, when you start to follow the trail of where some of these influences and these diets or these fads have come from, you’ll start to see that it’s not always from the purest of hearts. Right. A lot of times it’s from deep pockets. And so that is really important to remember.
0:40:11 Tansy Rodgers: Especially it is important for everybody who is trying to make this change, but especially for creatives, because you need to have your brain to be at its most healthiest. We need to keep the inflammation low. We need to keep the nutrients coming in. That’s going to keep you at your healthiest, to be as creative as you can be. And when, you know, you said just a little bit ago about something inside you switches that you start to crave the healthy foods or you start to crave the unhealthy foods, right? But your palate, your tongue’s palate literally changes. It physiologically changes.
0:40:49 Tansy Rodgers: Marketing knows this. They know this. And that’s why there’s salt and sugar and unhealthy fats, because it physiologically changes the structuring in your tongue to make you crave more and more. It then wires your brain to want more of that. And so when people say, this was a while ago, I forget the exact statistic. Oh, I think it was eight times where they say that sugar is eight times more addictive than cocaine because of what it does to the brain.
0:41:24 Tansy Rodgers: When people say, I feel like I’m addicted to sugar. Yeah, they’re not lying. And. And a lot of companies know this when they’re creating products. And so it’s one thing to know it. It’s a totally different experience to experience it. And allowing people to understand through your book that you’ve written, through these words that you’re talking, that it’s the experience and it’s freaking uncomfortable.
0:41:54 Tansy Rodgers: It’s hard. But when you choose that hard to make the change, it becomes easier when your body starts to understand that you can feel different.
0:42:07 Cliff Beach: Yeah, totally. Totally. And it’s like, you know, you look at the. The market of things, like, I thought that Santa always wore his red suit. That was made by Coca Cola. That was the thing that Coca Cola created. He did not always look like that. Coca Cola was originally made as a medication for stomach ailments. You know, you would get it from the pharmacist, but it wasn’t meant to drink every day until someone said, you should bottle this.
0:42:32 Cliff Beach: Let’s do that. And so, and the size of, you know, they were. They Used to be much smaller, you know, 8 ounces. Now, you know, you can get super size, super size, you know, 40 ounces of soda and sugar. And yes, it is addictive and it does give you that dopamine hit in the brain because, you know, in the natural world, let’s say you eat a mango or an apple, it’s like, you know, you still, your body still has to fight through the fiber to get the sugar and still digest it. And fiber and sugar together will digest at a much slower rate.
0:43:01 Cliff Beach: The same with carbohydrates and fat and things like that. So it’s the combinations of things. And so if you look at indigenous people and how they eat, somehow they were able to understand, you know, how food metabolized together and how it created, even without having the science to back it up, it created like all the amino acids and the chains that are needed, you know. So like in South America, they would eat what they call the three sisters. You know, it’s, it’s, it’s corn and squash and beans.
0:43:33 Cliff Beach: And somehow when they all grow together, it’s like it naturally protects the others, you know, and that’s just nature. But it’s like when you. Because I was cutting a mango the other day and I told someone, I was like, do you want to make it? They’re like, it’s a lot of work. It’s a fussy food. And I was like, it is, it is. I was like, but I used to always go and like, either get it cut up or from the store. And I was like, it’s a lot of work. But then when I was cutting it and it was a lot of work, I was like, but this is like what our great grandparents did. Like, they, if they wanted something, they had to make it. They wanted a pie, they had to make it, they wanted the cake, they had to bake it, they wanted butter, they had to churn it.
0:44:10 Cliff Beach: And you eat less when you have to do that and it’s cheaper and you know what’s in it. And so I think that’s just, you know, back to basics. When you’re creating things and you’re cooking it and you’re eating has a natural cutoff point, you know, you’re not going to over indulge. But when you have these overly processed foods where the sugar and the salt and everything is right at the top, the superficial, and it burns up so quick and it’s so highly caloric for what you could get.
0:44:48 Cliff Beach: You know, that’s why people, we have the obesity epidemic, because they eat in and out or whatever it is, and it’s 1500 calories and they don’t know that. And then you’re hungry again because it doesn’t last. It doesn’t sustain you. It doesn’t hold on to you. And so. So that’s part of it. And then now, you know, the medical establishments of money, you have people who are like, well, it doesn’t matter because I can just get Ozempic and take shots and keep my weight, you know, and it’s like, well, you could.
0:45:20 Cliff Beach: I mean, you could do whatever you want, but it’s like that’s, that’s not natural. And also like, it’s not, it’s not going to get to the root of it because I tell people all the time, like, you might look skinny on the outside and still be unhealthy on the inside. You could smoke or drink or, or just, you know, work isn’t, you know, what your body is looking like. You know, you can’t always tell. So I think it’s just figuring out.
0:45:46 Cliff Beach: And you were saying a great thing too, about creatives or just people in general. Is that what I did realize, the byproduct of as you start eating cleaner and you work on your body, it cleans up your mind. You have cleaner thoughts because you’re burning, more efficient, essentially. And so that, that’s a great byproduct of saying, well, you can definitely hustle hard, but if you hustle hard and healthy and smarter, then you’re just refining the process. You can go longer, but also you won’t have to give as much in certain areas because it’ll just be a little bit easier. So again, you choose your heart. It’s hard in the beginning, but then it becomes easier over time.
0:46:30 Tansy Rodgers: It. I had a friend who, he said to me at one point, he’s. He has own issues, but he said to me at one point, he was like, yeah, my girlfriend, she’s younger than you look at. Look, look how good she looks. I’m like, she’s on meth. Yeah, yeah, she literally, Literally, she’s on meth. Of course she’s skinny.
0:46:56 Tansy Rodgers: It does.
0:46:57 Tansy Rodgers: But I say this. When you were talking about that, I thought of this because I’m like, yes, just because somebody looks on the outside like they are thin or in shape or they’re healthy doesn’t necessarily mean that that’s what’s going on on the inside. Right? Like, you have to look at the big picture. And I know that example is extreme, but I mean, but I Mean, like, it’s true in all ways, even if you’re eating foods that are not so healthy for you.
0:47:27 Tansy Rodgers: So I want to go back to something that you had said earlier. You had said that every day you have to be aware of what’s going on. And every day you’re addressing and you’re looking at things. Right? And so I’m curious, what does a day look like in the life of Cliff beach when he is operating at his best mentally, physically, creatively? What does that look like? What do you do? What do you do to maintain what is your flow?
0:47:58 Cliff Beach: Well, I don’t know if I’m the atypical person, but I live and die by a calendar. So I schedule my days in advance, at least the big chunks of the day, so that I can know exactly what is expected of me and where the gaps are that I can build in rest and relaxation. And then from there, I also, in terms of food, I track everything that I eat every day. So I’ve had over 700 days of tracking. And what that’s allowed me to do is be able to kind of make associations and understand about food in a different way. And also just it keeps me accountable, knowing, okay, that’s how many calories is in diet.
0:48:44 Cliff Beach: You know, in the beginning it was like I would run out of calories, and then it was like, well, then you just have to stop. That’s the end of your day, because you did not budget this accordingly. So I think ultimately for me, my days, a lot of calls. I do a lot. I work remotely, so I do a lot of calls. But then I can create the schedule so I can go to the gym or take walks. I do consistently at least 10,000 steps every day. And I like actually walking even beyond that because I get a lot of great ideas when I’m moving, when the blood is pumping and moving. It’s good also for people. I tell you, you know, walking is very low impact. But more importantly, if you’re struggling to figure out how to do it every time you eat a meal, go for a short walk, and then you’ll. You’ll hit the steps because you’ve been doing it so so often. You know, if you eat three times a day, you take three walks a day, you’ll easily get to that 10,000 step count. So it’s like you can build it into what works for you. And it doesn’t have to be cookie cutter or one size.
0:49:43 Cliff Beach: One size fits all for everybody. But, yeah, ultimately I just a natural planner. So for me, having a Plan and when I was really diligent about food, I would have a food plan and know what I was eating in advance. I’m not as strict with that, but I do track it. And I’m definitely now making more time to go actually physically to the gym as well as work out at home. So it’s like I, I think it’s good to have options, you know, I think it’s good to, to be set up, to be able to work out at home and go to the gym and go when you’re traveling to do that or figure out what that is. So I think it just takes pre thought more than anything else. I love actually on the weekend being able to look at my week schedule and understand like kind of generally what the week is going to look like.
0:50:31 Cliff Beach: I think it gives me less stress, less anxiety. I also don’t forget things like I don’t miss meetings and stuff like that because I make sure they get into the calendar. So I think, and again, building that discipline, I think tracking, writing things down, it makes it more real, makes it accountable, makes it something that you can go back to. If somebody asks you, you know, can you do this? You’ll clearly know if you can or you can’t based on bandwidth and things like that.
0:51:00 Cliff Beach: So I think, think that’s normally like five days a week. I usually have music and stuff in the weekends or in the evenings. And then I’m constantly working on side projects. So every so often when I have time, I’ll book time to get my blog done, time to get my radio show done, and little pockets. But you know, and in atomic habits, he basically says, like, we don’t die from like things we do, we die from like the systems that we have.
0:51:27 Cliff Beach: So all I do is focus on systems. Whether it’s at work or in life, I build systems. When you have done that, like if I’m making a podcast, I know how I’m going to record it. I know how I get it to my editor. I know when he’s going to get it back to me. Like, it’s not like I have to think about it because I built the system. So in the beginning, the heart of choosing your heart was making a system. But once I make a system and I keep running it, it’s like a recipe. It just runs the way that it’s supposed to do. And if something happens, you know, then you make pivots. But essentially like by having systems that you build around your life, whether it’s, you know, like Marie Kondo, she made A cleaning system. But once you do that, it becomes easier. This doesn’t spark joy. It goes in the trash.
0:52:10 Cliff Beach: This is, this is the, this is the trash that it goes. This is recycling. This is how I donate, you know, so it’s like, it’s hard to figure that out. You know, productivity, there’s different systems. You know, they’re getting things done, David Allen stuff, Tony Harlan, Tony Robbins has rpm. They’re all systems. But like once you start actually doing it, you know, you go to the gym and you’re working a circuit, you’re working with a trainer, you have a system, you’re working with a dietitian, you have a system.
0:52:37 Cliff Beach: Then it’s easier. The hardest figuring out and getting used to the system. So you have to continually do the system and keep tweaking it. And you have to do it for minimum 40 days. You have to do it long enough that it becomes, becomes a habit, it becomes a routine. And so it’s never. Now, 700 days later, a question like, will I track everything I eat? Of course I’ve done it. 700 days. I don’t even think about it. I go into my fitness pal, I log it, I eat, I log it.
0:53:04 Cliff Beach: And they don’t get missed. Or I look at the end of the day, make sure they get logged. Or if you did miss something, you go back the day before you log it, but the system helps you. And I think that’s why you look at someone like a Steve Jobs. They’re like, well, why did he always wear the same thing? That’s a system. My mind doesn’t have to think now and I, I need to be thinking about how to make the iPhone better. I need to think about what I’m wearing. That’s not important.
0:53:27 Cliff Beach: And so there are ways to kind of automate certain things where you’re like, okay, these low level tasks or these things are not important. The really important things I want to have the best system for so that I know that it can work. And in some systems, you know, they can work in the background. It’s not always at work where I have to see every cog in the wheel. I can see it dropped in in one place and ended at a place. And I can tell by the output that everything worked the way that it should or somebody went in there, adjusted, but either way the system is working.
0:53:56 Cliff Beach: So once the system is working and you just keep repeating it until it doesn’t work, then you go back, tweak, optimize. But I think that’s, that’s the main thing of a day is figuring out how you can take your day and put it into a system them, because that’ll make it a lot easier for you.
0:54:11 Tansy Rodgers: And so I love having these kind of conversations with you who is a creative, because it lands differently. You know, I think that it’s so important. Many, most listeners of this podcast are creatives. And so. And so I think this conversation is so important because as we want to try to succeed, build greater things, do our part in the world, be healthier and hustle, and still stay in the midst of all of our to dos, right?
0:54:46 Tansy Rodgers: I think it’s so important for us as the creatives to also remember that systems are important, but systems with flexibility can literally take you further. And so it sounds to me like you have a plan, you have a system them, you know what you need to do to stay healthy and to not necessarily burn out, but you also have some flexibility in there. And you use that creativity to stay flexible. And I feel like that’s often one of the missing pieces is that I, at least that I’ve gotten trapped into before, is that I would have a system and it would become so rigid that all of a sudden it wasn’t fun anymore and I would fall off the wagon and then find myself floundering once again.
0:55:29 Tansy Rodgers: And so. So having that with the flexibility, I think is a really big piece.
0:55:36 Cliff Beach: No, I agree. I mean, it’s like, even if you love something, you know, like, there are people who are like, I love lobster. Like, you didn’t have lobster tail. They’ll start tastes like. So, like, if you don’t swap it out and change it, like, you just can’t have. There are some people who could do that. Some people are like, I can have chicken and rice every meal. It’s like, for me, it’s like you need variety. And also, like, nature is showing you that you want variety. The seasons change and different things come and go because of that. That and then also just, you know, eat the rainbow. You know, the colors and the variety is different. Actually, I was watching this whole kind of Gut Brain Netflix documentary, and in there they were saying, like, you need to have 30 different things a week for your gut to remain healthy. You know, the phytochemicals and things you need. So it’s like you want to have as many different colors and vegetables and fruits and grains and things that are good for you. And so it was really nice to be able to understand, like, there’s.
0:56:34 Cliff Beach: There’s a reason for diversity, like in nature, you know, Otherwise, everything would be beige. Like, there’s some reason why they put all these colors. And when you eat with all the colors and stuff, you. You gain, you know, different vitamins. Like when you have beans and you have rice, together, they become complete. Separately, they’re not. And. And I think that’s a great metaphor for humans. You know, we together are complete, you know, than just alone, not as complete. Not that you’re not complete, but it’s like, you know, we need each other, and you need.
0:57:05 Cliff Beach: And by having these conversations with people that are doing different things, you can learn. Oh, that’s what you’re doing. That’s working for you. Great. Because that’s the beauty of it. When I lost the weight. So once you lose 50 pounds, people start to notice. People will naturally start asking you, what are you doing? You know, what’s your secret? I want to know. You know, and with business, you have success, you start making millions of dollars. People like, what did you do? I want to know. That’s the same thing. People naturally are inquisitive.
0:57:29 Cliff Beach: But the thing is that you don’t need to say anything. People will just notice. You know, when people knew you for decades and now you’re 75 pounds lighter, they will naturally just say, what’s up? What did you do? You know, first they ask, are you okay? Then when they realize that’s fine, they’re like, okay. How can I also be okay? I want what he’s having. And so that’s why I wanted to write the book, because I was like, well, I can’t tell everybody the same story every time. And also, I just wanted to catalog what I did, you know, and whether you write a book or not, keep a journal, it’s good to know what you’ve done, what you’ve done successfully, because you’re going to have to go back to that, you know, and sometimes you.
0:58:11 Cliff Beach: You fall off the wagon, you get back on. But it’s like, you know, what. What it was to be successful at one point, you know, when you were eating healthier than you are now, you know, when you were working out better than you are now. And then you just have to go back to that happy place, that time where you built the system that worked for you. See, the thing is that the system worked. It wasn’t the system that changed, but you changed. Something shifted your mind and your focus from what was working.
0:58:37 Cliff Beach: You know, maybe it was marketing, maybe it was distraction, maybe it was work, maybe it was the hustle, any of those things. But it happens to us. All but we can always go back to that and learn and then bring it, pull it forward and, and so I think it’s just realizing that like I said, every day it’s a battle, every day it’s a fight to choose and re choose the heart. Because all the time almost anything that I do, I want to give up. It is much easier to, to succumb than to overcome no matter whatever you decide to do.
0:59:19 Cliff Beach: Because the world is not always rooting for you to, to get this done. It doesn’t mean it’s always rooting against you. Sometimes it’s just indifferent. But you have to be self motivated, self led and, and figure out the journey. That’s why in the beginning I said you write the prescription for your own life. If you don’t like the prescription, then you have to change it. If you don’t like the way you feel, then you have to change it. No one else is going to be able to do that for you.
0:59:52 Cliff Beach: And so you know Jim Rohn, he helped cultivate and motivate Tony Robbins. But basically he said life never gets easier. You just have to become better. That’s the only difference to the equation. You have to become better. And that’s, this is the way you do it, through health, through what you put into your mind, what you put into your body and what you do that impacts the change that you want to see in the world.
1:00:18 Cliff Beach: But it is hard because you have to do it. And not only you have to do the work, but you have to be the voice that tells you what’s right for you. That inner voice is in there, but it’s drowned out by the noise. And so when you relax and get into your quiet space, your that voice can speak and you can listen and hear it. And again, that’s why I said most people, I think intuitively know what to do. Just like animals, animals intuitively know what’s good for them. You don’t ever see them like, oh, I’m eating this thing, it’s not good.
1:00:55 Cliff Beach: I, they gravitate to what they would naturally eat. That’s what their diet is. In the real, not in the human world, but in the animal kingdom, diet means what I would naturally eat is what they grow up on and what they know. It’s good for them. And that’s what we have to do. We have to tap into like we are mammals. And with that we need to tap into what we know intuitively is good for us. Us, not what we’ve been sold to, not what we’ve been Told, but what we know in our, in our gut, you know what is good for us. And, and, and you can. And if you don’t know, then you can get the information to know again. That’s a you problem to solve.
1:01:32 Cliff Beach: If you don’t have that information. The library is free, the podcasts are free. You have to go and do that. That’s why the forefathers, they said, life, liberty, the pursuit, root of happiness. There’s something you have to do. If you’re not happy, you have to do something about it. If you’re not grateful, you know what the gratitude journal says? Write down what you’re grateful for. If you have nothing to be grateful, what could you be grateful for? And then get after it.
1:01:59 Cliff Beach: That’s your job to do that. If you’re not grateful, whose fault is that? Who are you going to blame? You. Who’s making you miserable? You. What are you going to do about it? You.
1:02:09 Tansy Rodgers: You.
1:02:09 Cliff Beach: That’s it. It’s always you. I tell myself when I was in my 20s, I hit rock bottom. And in the first book I talk about it, ultimately I was like, the. The best day, whether it’s the Matrix or anything else, is the day that you become Superman. You put the S on your chest. You’re the hero that you need to save you. No one else is coming. No one is coming. Not because they’re not good people, but they have their own battle to fight.
1:02:36 Cliff Beach: They have to put theirs on their chest and do their thing. You know, and so a lot of times with music or health or anything else, you look over at someone and you compare, and that erodes the positivity you could have because you’re looking at the body they have you, you’re not going to get that body. You have the body you’re going to have. And you can chisel that the way you want, but you’re not going to be them.
1:02:59 Cliff Beach: That path and that journey is them, them. Same with music and awards, like people who win Grammys. If that was meant for you, it’s coming to you. You can’t go grab that. If it’s meant for them, it will never be yours. As frustrating as it is, it’s better to just let that go, because then with an open hand, you can receive what the universe wants to give you. And if the universe wants to give you the health and the body, love that body that you’re in and then love foods that love you back.
1:03:27 Cliff Beach: And that’s going to help you love your body and love your mind. So I think it Ultimately, it all comes down to the mind, and it comes down to you realizing that you are the captain of your own ship and the master on your own fate. It’s up to you.
1:03:42 Tansy Rodgers: I love that. Yeah. Well, I want to dive into. In just a moment, I want to dive into some of the details with the book, and I want to talk a little bit more about that. But before we go there, I don’t want to get too far away from something you said. You talked about. You need to be like the human experience. You want to be complete.
1:03:58 Cliff Beach: Right.
1:03:59 Tansy Rodgers: You want to bring all of it together. And then you talked about how Jim Rohn said it’s about becoming better, becoming a better person. Right. And so in the last episode that we did, we touched on this. But I want to go just a little bit deeper. Do you think that creativity, spirituality are tied directly to your physical vitality? And so, like. Like when your body is clean and clear, when you take these moments to do the breath work, to calm the mind, to shift the neural pathways, like all of that stuff feed the body the nutrients that needs. Lose the weight. Like when your body becomes clean and clear, does that really start to shift? What starts coming in, the quality of what comes in intuitively, spiritually, creatively, like whatever that is.
1:04:52 Tansy Rodgers: What is your thoughts there?
1:04:54 Cliff Beach: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think, you know, a lot of times people will say it borders on the. The metaphysical. And there are things about life and spirituality in the world and our relationship to it that we don’t understand. But I can explain this musically with the body and health specifically. If I had a flute and I bent it in half as they’re blowing into it, I probably get a sound out, but it’s not going to sound the way you normally would hear a flute because it’s dense.
1:05:21 Cliff Beach: And so now the hard work is straightening it back out, making it the way it was intended, you know, so when your body is misshaped, then, yeah, you can get an idea through there, but it’s. It’s going to be clunky, you know, Then when you actually do that unbending, putting it back in its natural shape, you’re going to produce a better sound. You’re going to produce a more effortless sound. And so, yeah, that’s how I always think.
1:05:47 Cliff Beach: And. And that’s why when you look at Community, it’s so important. When you go into a challenge group for health and you work with people, you go farther, faster. When you exercise with a buddy, you do more than you would on your own. That’s Just human nature that we push each other because iron sharpens irons. When you listen to people and it sparks good ideas, then you get more ideas and they will also have more ideas. It’s just the nature of, of getting out there, putting one foot after the other. You’ll learn. Sometimes you learn what not to do and that’s beneficial too.
1:06:20 Cliff Beach: So it’s like the journey has two steps forward and a step back and then three steps forward. It continues to, to make these evolutions, but ultimately it’s, it’s about putting it in its best light, whatever it is, you know, giving it the space to breathe and to be and to exist. You know, when I’m working on songs, I always tell people like, it’ll tell me what it needs production wise. It’ll tell me the musician that it needs to play on there. It will tell me, it will tell me when I’m writing it. It needs this bridge, it needs this lyric. It will tell you, it will tell you.
1:06:59 Cliff Beach: And if you’re listening to that and, and your body, when you’re in the store and you really listen, the Bible tell you this is, this is what you need to eat. This is the thing for you.
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1:08:20 Cliff Beach: When you look at a menu, this is the thing for me, you know, and it can’t, it can’t always be like when I’m looking at the menu, like, okay, this is the first thing I saw or this is like what they know. No, maybe that’s not the best. Look at it, you know, examine it, discern if that’s the best thing you know, what are the calories in it? What’s in it? What else have you had that day? What are you planning to have the rest of that day? That kind of thing. So it’s, I think when you’re talking to creatives, it’s like what you hear is that, that it’s many things. People always think there’s like a, a one, a one pill, magic bullet that will just fix everything. But it’s like, no, like even in this book, like, people are like, well, what did you do? I’m like, well, I did intermittent fasting. Like, okay, I’ll just eat in this eight hour window. And that’s it. It’s like, well, that helps. But it’s not one thing. You know, it’s like you got to do the tracking and to work with a dietitian, you gotta exercise, you gotta do different types of exercise, you have to watch, you have to eat different things, things and, and do these other things.
1:09:18 Cliff Beach: You know, some things you can quantify. Sometimes you can. I tell people all the time, I do acupuncture. Still could never tell you exactly what it does. I’m sure there’s science behind it, but it’s metaphysical. It’s like it clears blockages. Well, I don’t, I know, I know when I don’t do it, I feel different, you know, and, and talk therapy has been very beneficial for me. Talking out those feelings, going back to, to childhood and, and things to, to know when I tell people, you have to put that s in your chest.
1:09:46 Cliff Beach: That’s what becoming a true adult is. You have to know when you look at your parents, what they did and didn’t do. It’s over, it’s done. You can’t go back. The whole world is the first Mario game. You go left, you stop. You can’t go back. You can only go this way. That’s it. This is all we got. We got today. Choose your heart into tomorrow. That’s it. Everybody wants to go back. So therapy is like, yeah, you talk about the past, but you know, you can’t go back and change anything there. All you’re doing is learning so that the future and today can be different and impactful.
1:10:27 Cliff Beach: And so, yeah, that S in your chest is so empowering to tell people if your parents were great, amazing if they weren’t. It’s okay. Many of us had either one. But what you decide as an adult is what you decide. Nobody is keeping you from that. This invisible man or force that’s keeping you from whatever that goal is is you, it’s a darker version of you that doesn’t want to see you succeed. But the you that stands in the light will show you the path. It will illuminate the path, but you have to make the steps because you’re in the dark.
1:11:05 Cliff Beach: You gotta step to get to the light. The light is there, but you gotta walk through the tunnel. It’s not always illuminated to that degree. And so I think people, they want life to just have this aha moment, shine the light, and they see everything. But that’s not the way it works. It’s like you barely see anything. You might see the next step. That’s it. And you’re gonna have to make one step at a time. And sometimes you’re gonna have to step in faith. It’s dark, and you don’t know what’s there, if it’s a hole or not.
1:11:36 Cliff Beach: But we’re dead if we just stand still. You got to keep moving forward. So I think. I think it’s hard because I think sometimes people think you come across, or I come across, lacking empathy, you know, because you just like. Well, matter of fact, just do that. You know, you need to stop eating that. Do this, do this. Yeah, I whack a mole, and sometimes I’m short with how I speak. But it’s. It’s very empathetic. I know what it’s like for myself. I know it’s like for other people.
1:12:04 Cliff Beach: And when I see someone who is where I was, I would want you to do better. That’s empathy. But, you know, there’s a Care Bear, and there’s an intensive Care Bear. Sometimes you have to be tough, you know, Sometimes, like, life is hard. It’s really hard. And when you’re choosing your heart, it doesn’t mean that the one you chose isn’t any less hard, you know, but it. The people, sometimes they need a.
1:12:27 Cliff Beach: They need a kick. You know, in the animal kingdom, there’s a reason that birds kick them out the nest. You’re gonna have to fly, buddy. You get two chances, and then you’re on your own. That’s what we all learn. And that’s. That’s tough, I think. You know, as humans, we’re one of the only animals that raises their young for that long alone. You know, usually you’re expected to be like, well, you’ve. You’ve been here a day. It’s time to stand, you know, it’s time to walk, you know, and get a job.
1:12:52 Cliff Beach: But we’re always here for you. But. But whenever I say that it’s like, it’s, it’s coming from a place of beyond empathy. I want everyone to live their best life. Why would I want you to be less than what you could do? But ultimately, when you look out in the world, you see lumps of coke, coal. You know, there’s diamonds out there, but they did the work. And that takes a lot of heat and a lot of intensity and a lot of time to make a diamond.
1:13:20 Cliff Beach: So some of you are gonna stay cool. Not, not because of, you know, design by choice, you know, and so you’re not. Everybody’s diamond is the same level of clarity or whatever. So it’s like. But yeah, we all come in as coal. So whoever thinks someone came with a silver spoon came as a diamond. No, no, no one comes as a diamond. You, you don’t know what they’re going to be until they’re formed. No matter what you give them.
1:13:47 Cliff Beach: Because you can give somebody everything. But really then they’re just a puppet, you know, they’re not really doing it. Everyone has to have their own merit. I think that’s one of the detriments of sometimes getting too much. I have, you know, family members that gave them everything and then they didn’t, they didn’t push where they could have pushed. There are people who have got crazy talent who just didn’t have the drive.
1:14:10 Cliff Beach: Not because they didn’t have the musicianship and the talent and the creativity, but they didn’t want it bad enough. Some people who are mediocre get much further because they want it bad. That’s, that’s the hustle part, you know? But then they got to figure out, well, I’m gonna get some smart people around me. Yeah, I don’t have to be the smartest in the room, but I know how to make a system. And so that’s how they do it. But it’s definitely not one thing. That’s the one thing. I can tell. No matter what you do, it’s never just one thing. There’s no just. That’s the secret. You win the lotto and then shoes and ladders, you’re at the top. No, no, no, no. It’s so, it’s so non linear and that way.
1:14:44 Cliff Beach: That’s why I say it’s a battle all the time. I still have to pick the right foods. Sometimes I take the wrong foods and I get on the next day and, and then pick the right ones again. You know, it’s not, it’s not every day. I make bang up choices. I make mistakes just like everyone else. But then I, I own that mistake and I say, okay, let’s. Let’s take this information with new information and be better.
1:15:06 Cliff Beach: Yeah.
1:15:07 Tansy Rodgers: And you know, those diamonds that we see, very typically, they weren’t the take one pill and everything changes. It didn’t happen overnight. There’s so many things that go into. It’s a lifestyle that they have embraced open up there. It was a hard that they picked. Right. And so I’m sure everything that you just said and that, that, like that. It’s a beautiful analogy with the diamonds. Right. Like everything that you just said, I feel like that probably played a huge factor into wanting to get this book into people’s hands, getting this information out to the world.
1:15:44 Tansy Rodgers: So I would love for you to talk a little bit about why, why this book, what’s your vision and what are some of the main points that you’re really trying to convey to people by writing this and getting it out there. Especially with what you just said. You just said that this is not linear. This isn’t like a recipe that you can follow. And so I would love for you to talk a little bit about the book and the vision.
1:16:10 Cliff Beach: Yeah, well, you know, I follow Dr. Axe, Dr. Josh Axe, and he has a bunch of.
1:16:14 Tansy Rodgers: I love him.
1:16:15 Tansy Rodgers: Yes.
1:16:16 Tansy Rodgers: Yeah, he’s one of my favorites.
1:16:17 Cliff Beach: Yeah. And I saw a picture of him and he was like, I eat like a person who has cancer, so I’ll never get cancer. Right. And it’s like, yeah, that’s what I wanted. I want. Because now when I’m talking to kids and mentoring, you know, people used to say the kids are the next generation. I’m like, no, no, they’re not next generation. They’re now generation because they’re already here. Next generation is their kids and the kids after that.
1:16:44 Cliff Beach: And so now generation, if I was 20 years younger, it’s the same with beauty products. It’s like you, you, you want to use anti aging products when you’re young time so you don’t age. You know, you can still do it older, but it’s different. So it’s like if I could at 20, had 20 years of healthy living, my body would be completely different than it is learning it after 40. But it’s better to learn it after 40 than learn it after 80.
1:17:11 Cliff Beach: So there’s always a good time to start, and today is that day. The book was to be able to just help people understand the different building blocks of what this system entails. And the sad thing is that I meet people who are like Tell me what you did. And then they’re like, it’s too hard. I’m like, yeah, it is, but it’s not. But being unhealthier is harder. It’s, It’s. There’s nothing. Like, I can walk uphill, and I don’t run out of breath. Like, you don’t know how that felt for many years, where it was just like, man, I could make it to the mailbox and be out of breath, breath. And so I don’t check my mail every day.
1:17:50 Cliff Beach: But it’s. It’s interesting because you don’t realize that. And then when you finally start doing it, it’s hard, but it becomes a little easier and a little easier, and then you hate it, but then you enjoy it. And I tell people still, like, when it rains, I still do the steps. Sometimes I do them inside, sometimes I go out and I have soggy feet. Do I want to be out there? No. Know, But I made that commitment, you know.
1:18:17 Cliff Beach: You know that if someone was coming to your house with a check or something, you wouldn’t cancel. So you can’t cancel on yourself. You need to show up with that health check and get out there and do the work, because you’re going to feel better. Every time I go to the gym, I feel better after. Not necessarily, like, exactly right after, but I mean, like, I feel good about making that choice. Also that I’m not just paying for something that I’m not using, but.
1:18:45 Cliff Beach: But that, you know, people are there. And the thing is, like, the trick, if you want to go walking, put your shoes on, go outside. When you get outside and you start walking, you’ll go because you’re out there. But when you think about it, laying in bed, you’re not going to go. You’re just not going to go. So the same thing with the gym. Gym, you have the gym membership. When you drive over there, you walk over there, you get in the gym, you’ll use the equipment because you’re already there.
1:19:14 Cliff Beach: So the preparation is. Is getting there. Get out there as quickly as possible to the thing, and whether you hate it or not, you end up doing it because you’re already there. And you’ll actually start to find things you like to do and look forward to doing it eventually, because you know that’s the right thing for you and your body and your mind. And it’s important. It’s important to give yourself that time, because especially with creatives or business people, you’re the CEO or COO or VP or whatever.
1:19:49 Cliff Beach: Are you really A boss. If you can’t make the time to go to the gym, who are you? Who are you trying to prove that to? If you’re really a boss, you say, I’m making the time for myself. You want me to be able to deliver my best at here, this is what I need, this is what is required. I wouldn’t have a machine that was all dilapidated, you know, putting out crap. We’d have to fix it. We have to do something about it. And your body is the same way.
1:20:15 Cliff Beach: And, you know, 30 minutes a day, 60 minutes a day, it’s not going to kill you. You wake up a little bit earlier, you do it in the morning, you do it at night. I’ve had workouts all times of the day life. But you, you fit it in. And if your day is so stacked that you can’t fit it in, then you have to block that time. You know, it’s like if you say, hey, I have a meeting from 11 to 12 and that’s when you’re at the gym, then your time is blocked. No one’s going to put a meeting there because it’s blocked.
1:20:44 Cliff Beach: And that meeting is just as important as any sales meeting or pitch meeting or anything else, because you’re going to come back to your work stronger because you did something for you. That’s why I used to wake up before work and do qigong an hour before work, because it set the intention that I did me before work. And then also when I did meditation, I wake up in the morning and I would do the miracle morning. How Elrod’s book and he all these savers and you scribe and you, you do your intentions and all those things, visualizations and exercise and you read. And the whole thing is that you do that in the morning to set the tone for the day. That’s why CEOs usually wake up at 5, 6am and they read and they watch financial news or whatever it is, because they’re prepping themselves for the day, priming themselves to be prepared for whatever they’re going to have to face. You know, warriors that go into battle, people who are in sports, they exercise and work before the game because that’s the prep that needs to be done.
1:21:56 Cliff Beach: So that when you’re in that battle mode, you have the stamina, you have the strength. And so again, I just tell people, if you’re the boss, you think you are, then you need to do this. And if you are truly the boss, then who says if it gets done or not, you, who’s keeping you from doing it. You. Because who’s the boss? You.
1:22:21 Tansy Rodgers: You know, I have to add to this because as you were talking, it reminded me of something that I say to some of my clients all the time that come back to me with so many excuses of why they can’t do something, even. Even allotting 10, 15 minutes to quiet time or time to. I always say to them, it’s all about your true, real priorities. Because. Because priorities will always trump what you say that you want to do.
1:22:53 Tansy Rodgers: Right? And so if you, if you’re, if your priority is not strong enough, and maybe that priority for staying in an old pattern or staying comfortable or whatever, if that is stronger than what you say that you want, you’ll never make the change. And allowing yourself to make that change is going to really require you to up the priority that you say that you want to have. And I don’t have the answer for how you’re going to do that.
1:23:32 Cliff Beach: But.
1:23:32 Tansy Rodgers: But that needs to happen in order for you to make that change.
1:23:36 Cliff Beach: Yeah, I mean, I get it. It’s like you have, like, you have more negative reasons not to do something, and you just need one compelling reason to do it, but that’s where you have to shift your focus. The priority has to be like, I know there’s a million reasons why I’m not going to get the gym done, but the one reason is that I need to get it done. It’s priority one, because my health matters. My health comes first.
1:24:04 Cliff Beach: I’m making it a priority. And I think the thing is that we all know anyone can do it. Will they do it? Debatable. But everyone can. No matter what level of work you do, you have some agency and autonomy. And time is. There’s no one who works 24 hours straight that I’ve ever seen. I mean, it just would not be feasible. And so, and we know this, we know from during the, the Holocaust, they tried to get rid of having days off, and it just was abysmal. You know, they realized that that’s, that is not an option for human beings. They need minimum a day off.
1:24:52 Cliff Beach: But we’re not even asking for a day. We’re asking for an hour. We’re asking for a half an hour. We’re asking for 15 minutes, we’re asking for five minutes. You know, when I was doing the miracle morning, you would do it for 60 minutes, but if you couldn’t fit in 60 minutes, you could do each thing for a minute in six minutes. And if you don’t have six minutes, that’s A problem, you know, I mean, everybody has six.
1:25:16 Cliff Beach: Six minutes somewhere. And so I. And once you do six minutes, then it’s easier to become 12 and 24 and eventually 60. Because when you start doing it and you find the fun in it, you’re like, oh, my gosh. Like science. When they had the eureka moment. He’s taking a bath. To solve a complex problem. See you, you. When you get divergent thinking, you go do something else. You go to the gym. All of a sudden, you start working out your body. You start moving, and the ideas will flow and come and turn on that tap. And then you’ll start to solve these problems that you’re coming back to and come back stronger because you’re like, wow, I really.
1:25:56 Cliff Beach: I really did something. And that’s why I think you can do it anytime. But earlier in the day is great. Setting the tone. You know, it’s like when you eat that frog and you’re like, I did this for me first. Then nothing, nothing worse than that can. Can. Can happen. But also, you know, you’ve built. You’ve built a muscle, you know, so you’re going to withstand more now because you’re stronger than you were. Like, when you get out of bed, you don’t have, like, full strength, you know, you’re still, like, shocking back into your body in the day, right?
1:26:25 Cliff Beach: But then, like, when you say, okay, let me. Let me work out. Let me listen to something positive, it’s gonna set the whole tone. Even if someone comes in and they start throwing some whatever around, it’s like, you become like Teflon. It builds an armor and a guard to you that you’re like, you know what? No matter what happens after this, this was a great start. This was a good day. That’s why people will always ask me, how was your day? And I’m like, good.
1:26:51 Cliff Beach: I make them good. You know, it’s like I choose for them to be good. I choose to find the good in them. Because, yeah, a lot of people can have bad days. I’m not saying that nothing bad ever happened, but I try not to say that was a bad day. I said, that was a bad thing happened in a good day. Because if I don’t, then I’ll start to see more bad days. The mind works that way. You, you, you. It will. If you believe something, it will show you more of that.
1:27:23 Cliff Beach: And so if you believe these intentions and health are important and prioritization of them is important, it will show you more time and more ways to fit that in. But if you don’t make it a priority, then it will not reveal to you the times that are in there to be able to get this done.
1:27:42 Tansy Rodgers: Yeah, well, okay. So as you’re talking there, I started thinking about you, those people who think that that is just too late. It sounds like Shape up your book really is proof that you can evolve at any stage in your life. So what would you say to somebody who may be feels like they’re stuck in the old versions of themselves and they’re not quite sure where or they’re not sure how to start. Like, what would you say to that person who wants to make the change?
1:28:09 Tansy Rodgers: They just maybe are in a freeze mode and they don’t know how.
1:28:15 Cliff Beach: Yeah, I mean, I think it’s really written for people that have already had problems. So, you know, there’s always the people who are like, they don’t have any, they didn’t have any problems yet or not. You know, they were minor problems they could solve. That’s great. It works either way. It shows you the pitfalls of what not to do and not to let something go so far. But yeah, I think that people are able to so just underwhelm yourself. Ultimately it’s like find one thing that you know you can do. Like if someone’s like I drink soda, then just cut that, you know, switch to carbonated water, switch to water with fruit in it, whatever it is. But it’s like those little changes, this micro habits build to big wins, you know. So it’s like if you can’t do 10,000 steps, just do a thousand.
1:29:01 Cliff Beach: You know, you can’t do 20 push ups, do five if you’re doing my knees do that. Every exercise program will have modifications. The, the thing about being stuck is like you will remain stuck until you move right, but you need to move in a different way. Les Brown had this whole story where a guy walks by and here’s this dog howling, howling, howling. And he’s on this porch with a guy and he’s like, why is your dog howling?
1:29:26 Cliff Beach: And they’re like, the dog is sitting on a nail. Like, well, why doesn’t he do anything? They’re like, it only bothers him enough to to complain, but not enough to move to take action. And that’s what’s happening when you’re stuck. You’re on that nail, it’s bothering you, but you got to make that pain so severe it forces you to get out of there. And once you do that, even if it’s inch by inch baby steps, eventually you’ll get out. You know, it’s like even in a dark room, you light a match and it’s real tiny, but it’s some light, you know, I mean, otherwise you’re just in there cursing the darkness, and that’s craziness.
1:30:07 Cliff Beach: But you. It’s not. You’re not gonna. You didn’t gain the weight in a day, and you’re not gonna lose it in a day. You know, it’s like, that’s unrealistic.
1:30:15 Tansy Rodgers: Stick.
1:30:15 Cliff Beach: So it’s like, just figure out little tiny microhabits that you know you can win easily. Like, if you can let go of soda, yes, it’s hard, but it’s not impossible. And once you replace it with the carbonated water and you get, you know, flavors and certain stuff like you. You won’t miss it as much. And remember, the most important thing, especially with recovery, is replacement. Right. If you just leave a hole, you’ll go back to what you did. If you just say, well, I’m not gonna drink soda. But you didn’t figure out a replacement that’s going to work for you. You’ll just drink soda. So you have to immediately say, okay, I’m not drinking soda. Get rid of all the soda in the house, replace it with soda water, and it’s there for you when you need it. And now you’re going to trigger, okay, when I think of soda, I’m going to have the soda water.
1:31:06 Cliff Beach: And at first you’re like, ah, I miss it it. But eventually you get used to it, and eventually you look forward to it. And that’s the way it goes. But I think that’s the hard thing. So if one find something small that you can do immediately just to get small wins and build up, snowball them. And then second, you have to do swaps. You have to replace the negative for something positive. If you leave a hole, you will automatically go back to the negative because you didn’t give yourself a healthy alternative.
1:31:35 Tansy Rodgers: I.
1:31:36 Tansy Rodgers: Great advice. It almost feels like this book. It almost feels like your book pulls different concepts from recovery of addiction, from loss, from those places of falling off the wagon, which I think is brilliant, because that is truly how we make the. The change when we follow that kind of recipe. The actual pieces in the recipe may vary from person to person, but that part of the recipe, I think is so brilliant to bring into this conversation.
1:32:17 Cliff Beach: Yeah, and I love the way you say that because I explained to people the program, the idea is not aa, it’s not na it’s celebrate recovery. And only a third of the people who go have addictions like that. Two thirds of the people are recovering from life. That’s everybody. And so basically, when you talk about recovery and getting on the wagon, these type of things, it’s about who hurt you. You’re not eating and overeating and going to the food because you have some stressor, you have some problem. You have something about yourself you don’t like. Whatever it is, there’s always a reason.
1:32:52 Cliff Beach: You know, you go back to. To the skinny person who was on meth. You ask them, why are you on meth? Who hurt you? People don’t wake up and say, I want to do meth. That is not a normal response. Something has transpired in a person’s life that made them do that. And the thing is, is that the difficulty is that if you’re on alcohol and you go to aa, you have recovery for that. People need to recover from sugar too, but they don’t see it that way because it’s not marketed that way. It’s like, oh, this is worse than drugs.
1:33:20 Cliff Beach: This is. This is your life. This is slowly killing you in a way that’s socially acceptable. So no one will ever tell you that you need to get to the five whys of who heard you. Something is bothering you that makes you eat the way you do or make you drink the way you do or makes you want to do drugs. And I’m not saying that there’s a judgment. It’s saying if you want to do this and you want to do it openly, you still owe it to yourself to get to the root of whatever is bothering you. Then you can decide if you want to still do that or not. And often you don’t.
1:33:57 Cliff Beach: Often you wish that somebody intervened and said something. And every time you say something to a person, they don’t want to hear it. They don’t want to hear it. They’re going to get to their own realization. But there’s always a deeper root cause. Nobody wakes up and says, I want to be £600 pounds. And it doesn’t happen in a day, but it happens when people do nothing. When you see the person gaining, gaining, gaining, and you say, what’s, What’s. What’s up? You know, in an empathetic way, what is.
1:34:27 Cliff Beach: What’s happening inside, not the outside. We love you no matter what. What is. What’s inside? What’s bothering you? What are the hurts or the habits? What are the hangouts? How can we help you heal? Because that’s ultimately what it is. People want to live Their best life. Life, you have to heal. If you don’t heal, you can’t live a best life. It’s impossible because you’re, you’re hurting. Hurt people, hurt people. Hurt people, hurt themselves.
1:34:50 Cliff Beach: Hurt people can’t celebrate their wins because they can’t see them. And, and so it’s really important to get to the roots of that. We all, we all have something bothering us. You can’t escape or survive, have life without some injury. You know, it’s part of the course. But doesn’t mean that you can’t heal. Doesn’t mean that even if it’s been broken and you’ve been limping for years that it can’t be fixed. It can be reset, it can be in a cast.
1:35:22 Cliff Beach: It can have a healing process. And that can be different for every person. But again, ask those wise to, to. To get there. At least be open to, to knowing and loving this better self, this future self that is only created by the choices you choose to make today.
1:35:45 Tansy Rodgers: I could talk to you forever about this. This is such great, great wisdom. I love how you bring in all areas rather than just talking about health and wellness. I mean, this is how, this is how the shifts are made. So, so let’s talk about getting this book into the hands of people. Where can people find you, Cliff? For all those who haven’t listened to the first episode, Again, episode number 113, make sure you head on back and listen to that one as well.
1:36:13 Tansy Rodgers: Cliff, where can people find you? Where can they find this book? And what is the biggest takeaway that you hope that people walk away with when they do read your book?
1:36:24 Cliff Beach: Awesome. Well, both of the books out, side Hustle and Flow and side Hustle and Flow, Shape up are on Amazon locally in Los Angeles at the Village, well, in Culver City. But everyone can get it there if you go to my website, sihustofso.net I give five free articles every week blog that posts up there and the links to the books are there too. And you can connect with me there, Cliff, at sighthouse on Sew.net all social media is at Cliff Beach Music. So you can DM me there too.
1:36:50 Cliff Beach: The one big takeaway from the book is that it’s your story. You get to write it, you get to shape it, you get to tell it, and hopefully your story will impact the next person. So as the guinea pig, as patient zero, I want you to not have to make all the mistakes I made and to be able to pull all these various resources into one resource that can that can help you. And if it helps one person, then, then. Then it’s done its job.
1:37:28 Cliff Beach: But no matter where you are today, it doesn’t mean that that’s where you always have to be. But you have to choose your heart, and you have to make the daily sacrifice to be able to do it. Because, you know, when I was a musician starting out, out, there was a musician who said, someone came up to him playing, and they said, you know, I always wanted to. To play piano like you. And the person’s like, you don’t.
1:37:58 Cliff Beach: And they’re so offended. Like, how can you say that? I’ve always wanted to. They’re like, you don’t. If you did, you’d be doing it. So that’s what I want people to know. It’s like, if you wanted to be skinny, you wanted to be healthy, whatever it is, you’d be doing it if you really wanted to. Bad enough as you want to breathe, you will. Will always find a way. Humans are the most resilient and the most resourceful, and you have all the seeds and potential and greatness inside you. You’re created to create, and you’re created to live your best life, and I believe that for you.
1:38:28 Cliff Beach: But again, some of us are going to cultivate and become diamonds, and some of us are going to stay coal. But we all started as coal and had that potential. But it takes a lot of time, takes a lot of the heat to be able to make that work. But everybody has it. Everybody has that X factor and they can put it out there because we haven’t heard it from you. And now you’ll be able to tell your story more and get out to more people when you focus on health. First.
1:39:00 Tansy Rodgers: Thank you so much for coming back onto the show. Cliff. This is amazing to have you for a second. Second round. Oh, man. Like I said, I could just keep talking to you. So thank you so much for writing this book and for bringing those words of wisdom. I love your take on it. I can’t wait for people to get their hands on this and follow you a little bit closer. So thank you so much.
1:39:24 Cliff Beach: Thank you so much, Tandy. Hopefully, we’ll. We’ll talk again soon. Take care.
1:39:30 Tansy Rodgers: So what does it really mean? Mean to shape up? Maybe it’s not about abs or aesthetic perfection. Maybe it’s about finally aligning your hustle with your heart, about giving your body and your dreams the attention that they both deserve. Maybe it’s about not giving up, even when the path is slower or more winding than you expected after this episode with Cliff Beach. I hope that you feel inspired to keep showing up, not perfectly, but intentionally, with joy, with movement, with rhythm.
1:40:06 Tansy Rodgers: And like I said earlier, make sure to head on back to episode number 113 and listen to his first interview with me. It really lays the stage. So here’s what I want you to ask yourself this week. Where are you still hustling from scarcity instead of soul? And what does embodied success look like for you? Not just on paper, but in your body and your energy? And finally, how can you let your purpose be both powerful and pleasurable?
1:40:43 Tansy Rodgers: This is your life, my friend. It’s your song. It is your heart song.
1:40:48 Cliff Beach: And.
1:40:48 Tansy Rodgers: And you’re allowed to rewrite the beat. Until next time. Keep spreading that beautiful energy you were born to share.
